New scouting group emerges with exclusion of homosexuals

[Bill Steele]

Good job! We applaud any organized efforts to prevent gay child
molesters from getting to children.

(KMOV) – Ever since the Boy Scouts have changed their policy on
admitting homosexual members, Christian-based groups have been
up in arms and now a new group is emerging to compete with the
scouts; keeping homosexuals out.

Rich Snyder has been a part of the Boy Scouts since he was kid,
even his children were involved. But now he’s turned to a
scouting group called Trail Life USA, based out of Orlando,
Florida.

The group is brand new, with only two troops in the metro area.

One troop, based out of a Swansea Christian church, is deep-
rooted in Christian teachings and traditional scouting. But not
everyone is welcome, one exclusion being homosexual boys.

"I think the historical position of the scouts is the better
position in that sex should not be a part of the scouting life,
these are young men developing and that should not be a part of
it,” said Steve Rogier of Community Bible Church.

In response, the Boy Scouts offered a statement that read in
part, “the BSA believes every child deserves the opportunity to
be a part of the scouting experience.”

“Some would say this is just an organization of exclusion, how
would you respond? I don’t believe it is, I think we will be
inclusive to the ability that we can,” said Snyder who is a
Trail Life troop leader.

Leaders say they’re ready for the criticism as well as the
group’s growing popularity.

http://www.kmov.com/news/local/New-scouting-group-emerges-with-
exclusion-of-homosexual-boys--248680751.html

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 06:46:31 +0100 (CET), "Bill Steele"

Post by Bill Steele
“Some would say this is just an organization of exclusion, how
would you respond? I don’t believe it is, I think we will be
inclusive to the ability that we can,” said Snyder who is a
Trail Life troop leader.

The idea is not as rare as you indicate. There is one troop about 20
miles from where I live and it was organized by one of the best former
SMs in the Lincoln Heritage Council area.

This has never been a world of inclusion. That only seeks the Lowest
Common Denominator. Most groups choose to include those who qualify.
We tend to associate with those who are most like ourselves, not the
most different.

Hugh

[Byker]

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
This has never been a world of inclusion. That only seeks the Lowest
Common Denominator. Most groups choose to include those who qualify.
We tend to associate with those who are most like ourselves, not the
most different.
Hugh

I can only imagine what a poofters-only jamboree would look like:
https://tinyurl.com/o422g5r

[Charles Ring]

Post by Byker

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
This has never been a world of inclusion. That only seeks the Lowest
Common Denominator. Most groups choose to include those who qualify.
We tend to associate with those who are most like ourselves, not the
most different.
Hugh

https://tinyurl.com/o422g5r

The intent isn't to have that kind of jamboree but to alter and weaken
the whole masculine culture of the BSA. The right way to handle the "gay
kids are excluded" media onslaught would have been a relaxed form of
don't ask don't tell. Don't ask boys if they are gay, strictly forbid
bullying/hazing for any cause, but DON'T LABEL ANY CHILD AS GAY. Having
children labeled all the permutations of LGBTQQ etc etc is a huge part
of the very real gay agenda, the second Q being "questioning" to bring
in kids who are confused, maybe in the stage where both boys and girls
consider each other to be "icky". At the same time they are being
bombarded in school and in media that's it's oh so cool to be gay. When
parents say they doubt it they are labeled "homophobes" and lose all
respect and authority. Quite a formula and I can only hope some unknown
factor disrupts it to rescue our society. Without that, it's a foregone
conclusion that the BSA will cave the rest of the way and allow gay
leaders sooner than later, Chick Fil A will be driven out of business,
Phil Robertson will be blacklisted from TV, and down the line with all
failure to toe the gay activist line criminalized.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Post by Charles Ring

Post by Byker

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
This has never been a world of inclusion. That only seeks the Lowest
Common Denominator. Most groups choose to include those who qualify.
We tend to associate with those who are most like ourselves, not the
most different.
Hugh

https://tinyurl.com/o422g5r

The intent isn't to have that kind of jamboree but to alter and weaken
the whole masculine culture of the BSA. The right way to handle the "gay
kids are excluded" media onslaught would have been a relaxed form of
don't ask don't tell. Don't ask boys if they are gay, strictly forbid
bullying/hazing for any cause, but DON'T LABEL ANY CHILD AS GAY. Having
children labeled all the permutations of LGBTQQ etc etc is a huge part
of the very real gay agenda, the second Q being "questioning" to bring
in kids who are confused, maybe in the stage where both boys and girls
consider each other to be "icky". At the same time they are being
bombarded in school and in media that's it's oh so cool to be gay. When
parents say they doubt it they are labeled "homophobes" and lose all
respect and authority. Quite a formula and I can only hope some unknown
factor disrupts it to rescue our society. Without that, it's a foregone
conclusion that the BSA will cave the rest of the way and allow gay
leaders sooner than later, Chick Fil A will be driven out of business,
Phil Robertson will be blacklisted from TV, and down the line with all
failure to toe the gay activist line criminalized.

If queers can brainwash the public into calling them "gay" it is a sad
commentary on the product of public schools.

You can call a dog's tail a leg but he still only has 4 legs.

Hugh

[Charles Ring]

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan

Post by Charles Ring

Post by Byker

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
This has never been a world of inclusion. That only seeks the Lowest
Common Denominator. Most groups choose to include those who qualify.
We tend to associate with those who are most like ourselves, not the
most different.
Hugh

https://tinyurl.com/o422g5r

The intent isn't to have that kind of jamboree but to alter and weaken
the whole masculine culture of the BSA. The right way to handle the "gay
kids are excluded" media onslaught would have been a relaxed form of
don't ask don't tell. Don't ask boys if they are gay, strictly forbid
bullying/hazing for any cause, but DON'T LABEL ANY CHILD AS GAY. Having
children labeled all the permutations of LGBTQQ etc etc is a huge part
of the very real gay agenda, the second Q being "questioning" to bring
in kids who are confused, maybe in the stage where both boys and girls
consider each other to be "icky". At the same time they are being
bombarded in school and in media that's it's oh so cool to be gay. When
parents say they doubt it they are labeled "homophobes" and lose all
respect and authority. Quite a formula and I can only hope some unknown
factor disrupts it to rescue our society. Without that, it's a foregone
conclusion that the BSA will cave the rest of the way and allow gay
leaders sooner than later, Chick Fil A will be driven out of business,
Phil Robertson will be blacklisted from TV, and down the line with all
failure to toe the gay activist line criminalized.

If queers can brainwash the public into calling them "gay" it is a sad
commentary on the product of public schools.
You can call a dog's tail a leg but he still only has 4 legs.
Hugh

I don't use hostile or degrading terms for them and i often remove such
words when I quote msgs from others. Using "gay" for homosexuals is
unfortunate and inaccurate but not nearly as bad as how babykillers
hijacked "choice". Language manipulation really is a key tool of
destructive "change agents"

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Post by Charles Ring

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
If queers can brainwash the public into calling them "gay" it is a sad
commentary on the product of public schools.
You can call a dog's tail a leg but he still only has 4 legs.
Hugh

I don't use hostile or degrading terms for them and i often remove such
words when I quote msgs from others. Using "gay" for homosexuals is
unfortunate and inaccurate but not nearly as bad as how babykillers
hijacked "choice". Language manipulation really is a key tool of
destructive "change agents"

That's like a kid saying "everyone else is doing it" as an excuse to
do something he shouldn't. But I agree that what you do is your
choice.

We don't call a lie something else - we don't call stealing something
else. Queers want people to call them gay because it hides their sin.
If it wasn't wrong they wouldn't want to change the term. And, yes,
everyone sins - most of us don't brag about it.

Hugh

[Barb May]

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
Queers want people to call them gay because it hides their sin.

Bigotry and religious fanaticism flourish among the ignorant.

"The spectacle of what is called religion, or at any rate organised
religion, in India and elsewhere, has filled me with horror and I have
frequently condemned it and wished to make a clean sweep of it. Almost
always it seemed to stand for blind belief and reaction, dogma and
bigotry, superstition, exploitation and the preservation of vested
interests."
? Jawaharlal Nehru

[Bill Steele]

Post by Barb May

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
Queers want people to call them gay because it hides their sin.

Bigotry and religious fanaticism flourish among the ignorant.
"The spectacle of what is called religion, or at any rate organised
religion, in India and elsewhere, has filled me with horror and I have
frequently condemned it and wished to make a clean sweep of it. Almost
always it seemed to stand for blind belief and reaction, dogma and
bigotry, superstition, exploitation and the preservation of vested
interests."
? Jawaharlal Nehru

It cane said simpler than that:

First decide what you hate, then find something in the scriptures that
you can claim supports it.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Post by Bill Steele

Post by Barb May

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
Queers want people to call them gay because it hides their sin.

Bigotry and religious fanaticism flourish among the ignorant.
"The spectacle of what is called religion, or at any rate organised
religion, in India and elsewhere, has filled me with horror and I have
frequently condemned it and wished to make a clean sweep of it. Almost
always it seemed to stand for blind belief and reaction, dogma and
bigotry, superstition, exploitation and the preservation of vested
interests."
? Jawaharlal Nehru

First decide what you hate, then find something in the scriptures that
you can claim supports it.

There is no reason to hate a queer. I don't like chocolate either but
eating it is not a sin.

Your presumptions make a fool of you.

Hugh

[Bill Steele]

Post by Barb May

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
Queers want people to call them gay because it hides their sin.

Bigotry and religious fanaticism flourish among the ignorant.
"The spectacle of what is called religion, or at any rate organised
religion, in India and elsewhere, has filled me with horror and I have
frequently condemned it and wished to make a clean sweep of it. Almost
always it seemed to stand for blind belief and reaction, dogma and
bigotry, superstition, exploitation and the preservation of vested
interests."
? Jawaharlal Nehru

Maybe you should clean the shit out of your mouth before you try
spouting gay bigotry.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:17:21 -0800, "Barb May"

Post by Barb May

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
Queers want people to call them gay because it hides their sin.

Bigotry and religious fanaticism flourish among the ignorant.

If you were not so ignorant you might have corrected my statement if
you thought it inaccurate.

Whether you did or did not is not important - your being too ignorant
to do so is.

Hugh

[cloud dreamer]

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:17:21 -0800, "Barb May"

Post by Barb May

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
Queers want people to call them gay because it hides their sin.

Bigotry and religious fanaticism flourish among the ignorant.

If you were not so ignorant you might have corrected my statement if
you thought it inaccurate.
Whether you did or did not is not important - your being too ignorant
to do so is.

Oh, the irony.

Speaking of ignorant....it's *you're*

And just what can he correct in your statement. You can't correct pure
hate, ignorance and bigotry. You make up stuff to justify it. You
misinterpret a set of rules for clerics written thousands of years ago
(Leviticus) to justify your modern day lack of self-esteem.

The only "sin" here is that you were brought up with no critical
thinking ability. Churches love people like you. You follow their lies
without a second thought and they reap the rewards.



..

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 09:34:23 -0230, cloud dreamer

Post by cloud dreamer

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:17:21 -0800, "Barb May"

Post by Barb May

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
Queers want people to call them gay because it hides their sin.

Bigotry and religious fanaticism flourish among the ignorant.

If you were not so ignorant you might have corrected my statement if
you thought it inaccurate.
Whether you did or did not is not important - your being too ignorant
to do so is.

Oh, the irony.
Speaking of ignorant....it's *you're*
And just what can he correct in your statement. You can't correct pure
hate, ignorance and bigotry. You make up stuff to justify it. You
misinterpret a set of rules for clerics written thousands of years ago
(Leviticus) to justify your modern day lack of self-esteem.
The only "sin" here is that you were brought up with no critical
thinking ability. Churches love people like you. You follow their lies
without a second thought and they reap the rewards.

It's so amusing when someone who uses an alias like "cloud dreamer"
ignorantly fails to present a different point of view. Instead he
espouses the party line of those attempting to justify their
existence. And he faults me for his mistaken belief that I did the
same thing.

Hugh

[Byker]

I can only hope some unknown factor disrupts it to rescue our society.

That's the key. A national emergency.

"Last time around" people had a strong leader to rally behind (FDR), but as
the Depression worsened, Communist and Fascist political factions came out
of the woodwork and didn't seem so whacko anymore. Populists like Huey Long
were regarded as bad jokes until Wall Street laid its proverbial egg and
people lost faith in the "system." By 1932 things had gotten so bad that,
aside from historians, few people today realize just how close the U.S. came
to becoming a police state. Had Long not been felled by an assassin's
bullet, history may well have taken a VERY different course.

Two or three generations hence, today's pampered society wouldn't stand for
standing in bread lines all day or living in Hoovervilles. Back then people
had it a LOT tougher, with no employee retirement plans, no Social Security,
no Welfare and foot stamps, no minimum wage law, no 1964 Civil Rights Act,
and since the U.S. population was a lot more rural then, doing without
running water or electricity. When food riots broke out, or strikes were
crushed ruthlessly, the public was lucky if it got to see 30 seconds of
grainy, silent, 16mm newsreel footage from Movietone News. Most of the
footage of that era showing strikers and mobs in general being tear-gassed,
clubbed, and shot by police and National Guardsmen that you see nowadays was
never shown to 1930's audiences. What Rodney King went through was dished
out by cops on a daily basis.

With the mass media of today, especially with the Internet, trying to keep
"bad news" like that away from the public would be impossible. There are no
FDR's out there anymore (nowadays he wouldn't stand a chance of getting
elected anyway) and with the likes of Jesse and Fat Al running around
preaching insurrection, it wouldn't take much of a spark to set off the
powderkeg in time of crisis.

That Duck Dynasty's ratings remain so high is a good indication of just how
many people share Phil Robertson's disdain for fags and uppity blacks. When
things get so bad that the President and members of Congress are forced out
of their offices, the "Progressive" game will be over. Following a
humilating defeat because of cuts to the military budget, all the nation's
top generals may well refuse to follow any more of the Chief Exec's orders
and there'll be real-life "Seven Days in May." If 100 million Americans
decide not to pay their Federal income taxes any more, there'll be nothing
the IRS can do. Troops will desert en masse rather than take up arms
against their fellow Americans. All fifty states, no longer being forced to
toe the federal line, will decide on their own what laws will be on the
books, and once Political Correctness is tossed on history's manure pile,
the best that all the fags, feminazis, and fanatical radical minorities can
hope for is to be right back where they started, circa 1950.

[Bill Steele]

Post by Byker

I can only hope some unknown factor disrupts it to rescue our society.

That's the key. A national emergency.
"Last time around" people had a strong leader to rally behind (FDR), but as
the Depression worsened, Communist and Fascist political factions came out
of the woodwork and didn't seem so whacko anymore. Populists like Huey Long
were regarded as bad jokes until Wall Street laid its proverbial egg and
people lost faith in the "system." By 1932 things had gotten so bad that,
aside from historians, few people today realize just how close the U.S. came
to becoming a police state. Had Long not been felled by an assassin's
bullet, history may well have taken a VERY different course.
Two or three generations hence, today's pampered society wouldn't stand for
standing in bread lines all day or living in Hoovervilles. Back then people
had it a LOT tougher, with no employee retirement plans, no Social Security,
no Welfare and foot stamps, no minimum wage law, no 1964 Civil Rights Act,
and since the U.S. population was a lot more rural then, doing without
running water or electricity. When food riots broke out, or strikes were
crushed ruthlessly, the public was lucky if it got to see 30 seconds of
grainy, silent, 16mm newsreel footage from Movietone News. Most of the
footage of that era showing strikers and mobs in general being tear-gassed,
clubbed, and shot by police and National Guardsmen that you see nowadays was
never shown to 1930's audiences. What Rodney King went through was dished
out by cops on a daily basis.
With the mass media of today, especially with the Internet, trying to keep
"bad news" like that away from the public would be impossible. There are no
FDR's out there anymore (nowadays he wouldn't stand a chance of getting
elected anyway) and with the likes of Jesse and Fat Al running around
preaching insurrection, it wouldn't take much of a spark to set off the
powderkeg in time of crisis.
That Duck Dynasty's ratings remain so high is a good indication of just how
many people share Phil Robertson's disdain for fags and uppity blacks. When
things get so bad that the President and members of Congress are forced out
of their offices, the "Progressive" game will be over. Following a
humilating defeat because of cuts to the military budget, all the nation's
top generals may well refuse to follow any more of the Chief Exec's orders
and there'll be real-life "Seven Days in May." If 100 million Americans
decide not to pay their Federal income taxes any more, there'll be nothing
the IRS can do. Troops will desert en masse rather than take up arms
against their fellow Americans. All fifty states, no longer being forced to
toe the federal line, will decide on their own what laws will be on the
books, and once Political Correctness is tossed on history's manure pile,
the best that all the fags, feminazis, and fanatical radical minorities can
hope for is to be right back where they started, circa 1950.

Sorry. The young people coming up are rejecting bigotry. The change will
be slow, but inexorable. As Dylan said, you'd best get out of the way.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

Post by Bill Steele
Sorry. The young people coming up are rejecting bigotry. The change will
be slow, but inexorable. As Dylan said, you'd best get out of the way.

Yes, the country has been dumbing down for more than 50 years now -
more dropouts, more welfare, more food stamps, more Medicaid, more
bastards, more divorces - need I continue?

Hugh

[Bill Steele]

Post by Bill Steele

Post by Byker

I can only hope some unknown factor disrupts it to rescue our society.

That's the key. A national emergency.
"Last time around" people had a strong leader to rally behind (FDR), but as
the Depression worsened, Communist and Fascist political factions came out
of the woodwork and didn't seem so whacko anymore. Populists like Huey Long
were regarded as bad jokes until Wall Street laid its proverbial egg and
people lost faith in the "system." By 1932 things had gotten so bad that,
aside from historians, few people today realize just how close the U.S. came
to becoming a police state. Had Long not been felled by an assassin's
bullet, history may well have taken a VERY different course.
Two or three generations hence, today's pampered society wouldn't stand for
standing in bread lines all day or living in Hoovervilles. Back then people
had it a LOT tougher, with no employee retirement plans, no Social Security,
no Welfare and foot stamps, no minimum wage law, no 1964 Civil Rights Act,
and since the U.S. population was a lot more rural then, doing without
running water or electricity. When food riots broke out, or strikes were
crushed ruthlessly, the public was lucky if it got to see 30 seconds of
grainy, silent, 16mm newsreel footage from Movietone News. Most of the
footage of that era showing strikers and mobs in general being tear-gassed,
clubbed, and shot by police and National Guardsmen that you see nowadays was
never shown to 1930's audiences. What Rodney King went through was dished
out by cops on a daily basis.
With the mass media of today, especially with the Internet, trying to keep
"bad news" like that away from the public would be impossible. There are no
FDR's out there anymore (nowadays he wouldn't stand a chance of getting
elected anyway) and with the likes of Jesse and Fat Al running around
preaching insurrection, it wouldn't take much of a spark to set off the
powderkeg in time of crisis.
That Duck Dynasty's ratings remain so high is a good indication of just how
many people share Phil Robertson's disdain for fags and uppity blacks. When
things get so bad that the President and members of Congress are forced out
of their offices, the "Progressive" game will be over. Following a
humilating defeat because of cuts to the military budget, all the nation's
top generals may well refuse to follow any more of the Chief Exec's orders
and there'll be real-life "Seven Days in May." If 100 million Americans
decide not to pay their Federal income taxes any more, there'll be nothing
the IRS can do. Troops will desert en masse rather than take up arms
against their fellow Americans. All fifty states, no longer being forced to
toe the federal line, will decide on their own what laws will be on the
books, and once Political Correctness is tossed on history's manure pile,
the best that all the fags, feminazis, and fanatical radical minorities can
hope for is to be right back where they started, circa 1950.

Sorry. The young people coming up are rejecting bigotry.

The young people coming up don't know any better, but they
aren't stupid and learn fast. They are figuring out that
kissing fag ass makes them second class citizens.

[Mark Zeigfried]

Post by J. Hugh Sullivan
On Sun, 9 Mar 2014 06:46:31 +0100 (CET), "Bill Steele"

Post by Bill Steele
“Some would say this is just an organization of exclusion, how
would you respond? I don’t believe it is, I think we will be
inclusive to the ability that we can,” said Snyder who is a
Trail Life troop leader.

The idea is not as rare as you indicate. There is one troop about 20
miles from where I live and it was organized by one of the best former
SMs in the Lincoln Heritage Council area.
This has never been a world of inclusion. That only seeks the Lowest
Common Denominator. Most groups choose to include those who qualify.
We tend to associate with those who are most like ourselves, not the
most different.
Hugh

Gays don't have a single interest in the principles of scouting. They are
participants only to tear it down and destroy it. That is what they do.
Homosexuals and liberals are the termites of every society.

[J. Hugh Sullivan]

On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 06:01:45 +0000 (UTC), Mark Zeigfried

Post by Mark Zeigfried
Gays don't have a single interest in the principles of scouting. They are
participants only to tear it down and destroy it. That is what they do.
Homosexuals and liberals are the termites of every society.

I can't agree completely. I think being queer is the result of genetic
malfunction. Surely no one would choose the lifestyle. I think
everyone, whether queer or otherwise handicapped, wants to be seen as
an equal. If they aren't the next attempt is to force acceptance.

Other than being born with a soul there is no such thing as equality.
If there was we would all be earning millions every year for playing a
game.

Hugh