Post by J. Hugh SullivanPost by Mr. B1ackPost by J. Hugh SullivanYou generalize a little too much. A number of BSA Councils were NOT in
favor of accepting queers.
MOST of them in fact ... it had to be forced upon
them by legal threats. BSA has always been a very
conservative, indeed kinda theo-right, organization
from its inception. Hell, they wouldn't let *me* join ...
something about me stating that I wasn't religious :-)
I don't hate 'em though ... their org, they can run it
their way IMHO.
It will be a bit difficult to tell me much about BSA. I have been
registered for 60 years and I Chared the Board of Review for Eagle
Scout candidates for 39 years. I reviewed more than 400 candidates. I
earned my Eagle in Oct 1943.
BSA was almost defenseless against the onslaught of ACLU and the
queers. The National Board was composed of CEOs who did business with
the population and there were repercussions. I wrote a letter to
National expressing my opinion. The reply indicated they had little
choice.
Had you appeared before me as an Eagle candidate I would have asked
you to tell me about your duty to God. Every Scout promises to do that
duty to the best of his ability. A queer would never have passed our
Board. I resigned because of age not because anyone disagreed with me.
Membership in a Church is not a requirement. But anyone who thinks two
rocks colliding produced the consistency we see every day needs to
have his crayons taken away by the guards.
Post by Mr. B1ackThe Girl Scouts were a little more leftish from the
get-go however.
That get-go is probably a little more recent than you think.
Originally they were as moral as the BSA used to be.
Hugh
I remember in the 1960s in elementary school, by the time I was in 3rd
grade virtually every 8 year old male in the school had joined the Cub
Scouts. By the time I started Junior High roughly a quarter of them
were still scouts advancing up to the Boy Scouts.
I was a Cub Scout and then later on, in my Junior year in high school,
I joined the Explorers. In Memphis it was a Police post. And I was
in it until I graduated.
Today I work in a lot of both public and private schools servicing
mass notification systems and emergency communication systems.
I don't remember the last time I saw even a single Cub Scout in any of
them in at least 3 decades now. Of course, for the last five or six
years the school uniform policies prevent the kids from wearing their
uniforms to school as we used to on the days of the meetings, But I
doubt you'd see any regardless these days.
Back then when Scouting was seen as something that every boy should at
least try, we never had any of the kind of violence and crime that you
now see rampant in the very same schools today.
Boys carried pocket knives even in elementary school and no one ever
even came close to a knife fight. Even by the time I graduated High
school in 1975, kids still just had the typical schoolyard fist fight
and no weapons were used. And you rarely ever saw or heard any young
folks talking to older folks the way a lot of them do today. Even
though we may have been rowdy teenagers, we still said ma'am and sir
to our elder generations. Call it a "Leave It To Beaver" mentality,
and much of it came from the Scouts re-enforcing a lot of what our
parents were teaching us at home.
No one can deny that Scouting had a positive influence on the kids.
But now, thanks to the so called bleeding hearts who made it their
mission to destroy the Scouts for what they stood for, our schools
feel more like prisons with full time police officers being necessary
in order to keep the students at least somewhat peaceful.
You see kids talking to their own mothers as if they were gutter trash
and even physically abusing them in some instances.
"On my honor, I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally
straight."
Try to find a boy today that just remembers hearing or reading that
oath, much less knows where it came from, and you will be looking long
and hard.
And the state of the youth today is a reflection of what happens when
the left succeeds in removing all positive groups and organizations
from our culture such as the BSA, GSA and even the Eddie Eagle program
of the NRA. Even school sanctioned programs such as ROTC are
ridiculed and discouraged.
As a nation we have allowed the few to assault and pervert virtually
anything and everything that even remotely promotes any moral
behavior.
It is no surprise that the result is a geometric increase in amoral
behavior.