Replacing a chairperson

[sasha3502]

How do you go about having a committee chairperson removed? Our CP has
divided our committee and is ruining our troop by running out good
leaders and people.

[KW]

Post by sasha3502
How do you go about having a committee chairperson removed? Our CP has
divided our committee and is ruining our troop by running out good
leaders and people.

Have you discussed your issues directly with the Committee Chairperson and
the Chartered Organization Rep? If that is not an option at least take the
facts and your list of grievances to the COR. Technically it is the
Chartered Organization's job to appoint (or remove) the CC.

KW
Current ASM
Past CPC,CM,ACM,WDL,DL

[sasha3502]

We had written in to our By-Laws that the Committee Chair would be
elected every year. She had our Charter throw out the By-Laws claining
all we needed were the BSA Guidelines. What if we got the By-Laws
reinstated?

Post by KW

Post by sasha3502
How do you go about having a committee chairperson removed? Our CP has
divided our committee and is ruining our troop by running out good
leaders and people.

Have you discussed your issues directly with the Committee Chairperson and
the Chartered Organization Rep? If that is not an option at least take the
facts and your list of grievances to the COR. Technically it is the
Chartered Organization's job to appoint (or remove) the CC.
KW
Current ASM
Past CPC,CM,ACM,WDL,DL

[Stephen Henning]

Post by sasha3502
We had written in to our By-Laws that the Committee Chair would be
elected every year. She had our Charter throw out the By-Laws claining
all we needed were the BSA Guidelines. What if we got the By-Laws
reinstated?

That is not an option. The Committee Chair is appointed by the COR
and/or IH (institution head). The Committee Chair is responsible then
to select a committee with the COR and/or IH's approval. Then the
Committee selects the leaders. That is if you are going by the book.

In actual practice, we seldom can choose who we want but must take who
we can get. However, there is no excuse for a CC and Committee to
fight. They should select leaders they want and then support them.

The role of the CC and committee is to select the leaders and support
them. It sounds like your unit could use training all around.

Post by sasha3502

Post by KW

Post by sasha3502
How do you go about having a committee chairperson removed? Our CP has
divided our committee and is ruining our troop by running out good
leaders and people.

Have you discussed your issues directly with the Committee Chairperson and
the Chartered Organization Rep? If that is not an option at least take the
facts and your list of grievances to the COR. Technically it is the
Chartered Organization's job to appoint (or remove) the CC.

It is the District Commissioner's staff and the District Executive's job
to work with the charter organization in working out such problems. I
know, I was a DE.

In one case the CC and COR were in a dispute and both were my good
friends. It turns out the COR was feuding with the IH (the pastor) and
the IH has the ultimate authority and was well intentioned. I had to
side with the IH and the CC and lost a very close friend. Good people
don't always agree, but we can't let such disputes ruin the program for
the Scouts.

[sasha3502]

Post by Stephen Henning
The role of the CC and committee is to select the leaders and support

them. It sounds like your unit could use training all around.

Our committee chair has ignored votes taken by the committee and gone
and done things her way anyway. She has kept things from the
committee. Our unit is well trained. I may not be but I know when I'm
lied to. I know when I'm ingnored along with other committee members.
AND I know when somebody is ruining a good thing.

You know I wish that I could just lay everything out and tell
everybody the whole story but it would take too long and I'm sure
people have better things to do. All I can tell you is that one year
ago we have one of the best troops around. We had scouts driving past
other troops to join ours. We had, and still have for the most part, a
fantastic program. But over that past year we have had a SM kicked out
(best friends with CC), several ASM quit. Several more families have
left the troop and we have this huge division in our committee. All
because of one person. Our CC.

[Stan]

Post by sasha3502
How do you go about having a committee chairperson removed? Our CP has
divided our committee and is ruining our troop by running out good
leaders and people.

Out of curiousity, has anybody spoken to this person directly about
the problems? I've seen plenty of cases where, if there's a problem
with a leader, there is plenty of talking, but never to or with that
person.

I've seen where people are often afraid to approach the Scout Leader
because of a fear of retaliation against their sons (and I myself got
that message when, as an alumni parent, I started to take on our
District Advancement Chair), but discussing it with that person is
still the best way to go.

One other thing, is your Committee Chair properly trained? Many
adults figure that training is a waste of time and that they're not
going to learn anything they don't already know or which is obvious,
but the fact is that they will learn a few new things.

[Chicago Paddling-Fishing]

Post by sasha3502
How do you go about having a committee chairperson removed? Our CP has
divided our committee and is ruining our troop by running out good
leaders and people.

You may want to revisit this and see if there is another side to this story.

When you go to training you find out that the CC and CM/SM are responsible
for everything that happens in a unit (they are the only 2 positions you
cannot promote a leader to (must have a new signed application, can't just
modify it at charter time).

Sometimes very personable people don't follow the rules... this can be very
upsetting to a CC who can be found to be legally responsible for the other
persons actions...

I'd be sure to talk to both sides...