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Experts Now Recommend Hands-Only CPR
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Fred Goodwin, CMA
2008-03-31 21:33:23 UTC
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Experts Now Recommend Hands-Only CPR

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http://tinyurl.com/2s8olc

Mar 31, 5:12 PM EDT
By STEPHANIE NANO
Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK (AP) -- You can skip the mouth-to-mouth breathing and just
press on the chest to save a life. In a major change, the American
Heart Association said Monday that hands-only CPR - rapid, deep
presses on the victim's chest until help arrives - works just as well
as standard CPR for sudden cardiac arrest in adults.

"You only have to do two things. Call 911 and push hard and fast on
the middle of the person's chest," said Dr. Michael Sayre, an
emergency medicine professor at Ohio State University who headed the
committee that made the recommendation.

Hands-only CPR calls for uninterrupted chest presses - 100 a minute -
until paramedics take over or an automated external defibrillator is
available to restore a normal heart rhythm.

A child who collapses is more likely to primarily have breathing
problems - and in that case, mouth-to-mouth breathing should be used.
That also applies to adults who suffer lack of oxygen from a near-
drowning, drug overdose, or carbon monoxide poisoning. In these cases,
people need mouth-to-mouth to get air into their lungs and
bloodstream.

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On the Net:

Heart Association: http://www.americantheart.org/handsonlycpr
Sarver Heart Center: http://www.heart.arizona.edu/

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smnjhull
2008-04-01 10:36:33 UTC
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Post by Fred Goodwin, CMA
Experts Now Recommend Hands-Only CPR
<http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/H/HANDS_ONLY_CPR?
SITE=OHCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT>http://tinyurl.com/2s8olc
Mar 31, 5:12 PM EDT
By STEPHANIE NANO
Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK (AP) -- You can skip the mouth-to-mouth breathing and just
press on the chest to save a life. In a major change, the American
Heart Association said Monday that hands-only CPR - rapid, deep
presses on the victim's chest until help arrives - works just as well
as standard CPR for sudden cardiac arrest in adults.
"You only have to do two things. Call 911 and push hard and fast on
the middle of the person's chest," said Dr. Michael Sayre, an
emergency medicine professor at Ohio State University who headed the
committee that made the recommendation.
Hands-only CPR calls for uninterrupted chest presses - 100 a minute -
until paramedics take over or an automated external defibrillator is
available to restore a normal heart rhythm.
A child who collapses is more likely to primarily have breathing
problems - and in that case, mouth-to-mouth breathing should be used.
That also applies to adults who suffer lack of oxygen from a near-
drowning, drug overdose, or carbon monoxide poisoning. In these cases,
people need mouth-to-mouth to get air into their lungs and
bloodstream.
--
Heart Association:http://www.americantheart.org/handsonlycpr
Sarver Heart Center:http://www.heart.arizona.edu/
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American Heart Association link is wrong (extra 't'), try

http://www.americanheart.org/handsonlycpr
Fred Goodwin, CMA
2008-04-01 18:34:03 UTC
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Post by smnjhull
American Heart Association link is wrong (extra 't'), try
http://www.americanheart.org/handsonlycpr
Thanx for the correction -- I lifted the link directly from the
article w/o checking it first. My bad.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2008-04-01 10:54:57 UTC
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A more technically accurate title would be Hands-Only BCLS because
here in the USA, it has always been Hands-Only CPR compared to Suction-
Device CPR abroad.

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Post by Fred Goodwin, CMA
Experts Now Recommend Hands-Only CPR
<http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/H/HANDS_ONLY_CPR?
SITE=OHCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT>
http://tinyurl.com/2s8olc
Mar 31, 5:12 PM EDT
By STEPHANIE NANO
Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK (AP) -- You can skip the mouth-to-mouth breathing and just
press on the chest to save a life. In a major change, the American
Heart Association said Monday that hands-only CPR - rapid, deep
presses on the victim's chest until help arrives - works just as well
as standard CPR for sudden cardiac arrest in adults.
"You only have to do two things. Call 911 and push hard and fast on
the middle of the person's chest," said Dr. Michael Sayre, an
emergency medicine professor at Ohio State University who headed the
committee that made the recommendation.
Hands-only CPR calls for uninterrupted chest presses - 100 a minute -
until paramedics take over or an automated external defibrillator is
available to restore a normal heart rhythm.
A child who collapses is more likely to primarily have breathing
problems - and in that case, mouth-to-mouth breathing should be used.
That also applies to adults who suffer lack of oxygen from a near-
drowning, drug overdose, or carbon monoxide poisoning. In these cases,
people need mouth-to-mouth to get air into their lungs and
bloodstream.
--
Heart Association: http://www.americantheart.org/handsonlycpr
Sarver Heart Center: http://www.heart.arizona.edu/
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y***@aol.com
2008-04-01 17:27:25 UTC
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On Apr 1, 3:54 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
A more technically accurate title would be Hands-Only BCLS because
here in the USA, it has always been Hands-Only CPR compared to Suction-
Device CPR abroad.
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward ofhttp://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
Post by Fred Goodwin, CMA
Experts Now Recommend Hands-Only CPR
<http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/H/HANDS_ONLY_CPR?
SITE=OHCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT>
http://tinyurl.com/2s8olc
Mar 31, 5:12 PM EDT
By STEPHANIE NANO
Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK (AP) -- You can skip the mouth-to-mouth breathing and just
press on the chest to save a life. In a major change, the American
Heart Association said Monday that hands-only CPR - rapid, deep
presses on the victim's chest until help arrives - works just as well
as standard CPR for sudden cardiac arrest in adults.
"You only have to do two things. Call 911 and push hard and fast on
the middle of the person's chest," said Dr. Michael Sayre, an
emergency medicine professor at Ohio State University who headed the
committee that made the recommendation.
Hands-only CPR calls for uninterrupted chest presses - 100 a minute -
until paramedics take over or an automated external defibrillator is
available to restore a normal heart rhythm.
A child who collapses is more likely to primarily have breathing
problems - and in that case, mouth-to-mouth breathing should be used.
That also applies to adults who suffer lack of oxygen from a near-
drowning, drug overdose, or carbon monoxide poisoning. In these cases,
people need mouth-to-mouth to get air into their lungs and
bloodstream.
--
Heart Association:http://www.americantheart.org/handsonlycpr
Sarver Heart Center:http://www.heart.arizona.edu/
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"A more technically accurate title would be Hands-Only BCLS because
here in the USA, it has always been Hands-Only CPR compared to
Suction-
Device CPR abroad. "

Incorrect.

Bottom line: Chung, you continue to lie and spread medical
misinformation. STFU.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
2008-04-02 21:45:04 UTC
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Shearwater
2008-04-02 20:56:30 UTC
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Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Post by Fred Goodwin, CMA
Experts Now Recommend Hands-Only CPR
<http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/H/HANDS_ONLY_CPR?
SITE=OHCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT>
http://tinyurl.com/2s8olc
Mar 31, 5:12 PM EDT
By STEPHANIE NANO
Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK (AP) -- You can skip the mouth-to-mouth breathing and just
press on the chest to save a life. In a major change, the American
Heart Association said Monday that hands-only CPR - rapid, deep
presses on the victim's chest until help arrives - works just as well
as standard CPR for sudden cardiac arrest in adults.
"You only have to do two things. Call 911 and push hard and fast on
the middle of the person's chest," said Dr. Michael Sayre, an
emergency medicine professor at Ohio State University who headed the
committee that made the recommendation.
Hands-only CPR calls for uninterrupted chest presses - 100 a minute -
until paramedics take over or an automated external defibrillator is
available to restore a normal heart rhythm.
A child who collapses is more likely to primarily have breathing
problems - and in that case, mouth-to-mouth breathing should be used.
That also applies to adults who suffer lack of oxygen from a near-
drowning, drug overdose, or carbon monoxide poisoning. In these cases,
people need mouth-to-mouth to get air into their lungs and
bloodstream.
--
Heart Association: http://www.americantheart.org/handsonlycpr
Sarver Heart Center: http://www.heart.arizona.edu/
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote in message
Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
A more technically accurate title would be Hands-Only BCLS because
here in the USA, it has always been Hands-Only CPR compared to Suction-
Device CPR abroad.
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Your assertion that "here in the USA, it has always been Hands-Only CPR
[sic]" is simply wrong. I've carried a CPR card from the American Heart
Association for nearly twenty years and AHA CPR algorithms have always
included rescue breathing. They now recommend a ratio of two breaths to
thirty compressions in all cases (both one person and two person CPR)
except newborns and providing a minimum of 100 compressions per minute.
Bystanders should not attempt to assess for pulselessness before beginning
CPR.

Continuous Chest Compression CPR is not an AHA approved algorithm as far as
I can tell and is a technique developed by the University of Arizona Sarver
Heart Center. Though it would appear that this technique might gain wider
acceptance in the future, especially in situations where untrained
bystanders
are receiving CPR instructions over the phone from emergency personnel.

How is it that a board certified cardiologist such as you (especially one
who
brags so copiously and continually of such certification) is ignorant of
basic
CPR algorithms? It's a good thing you have no patients to harm.
Mike Painter
2008-04-11 05:33:38 UTC
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Post by Fred Goodwin, CMA
Experts Now Recommend Hands-Only CPR
<http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/H/HANDS_ONLY_CPR?
SITE=OHCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT>
http://tinyurl.com/2s8olc
Mar 31, 5:12 PM EDT
By STEPHANIE NANO
Associated Press Writer
NEW YORK (AP) -- You can skip the mouth-to-mouth breathing and just
press on the chest to save a life. In a major change, the American
Heart Association said Monday that hands-only CPR - rapid, deep
presses on the victim's chest until help arrives - works just as well
as standard CPR for sudden cardiac arrest in adults.
No they did not.
They are just pointing out what was supposed to be taught since at least the
2005 standards.

It is probably that the 2010 standards may encompass this. Google MICR CPR
to see the results of the study done in Arizona.

"The new approach - termed minimally interrupted cardiac resuscitation or
MICR - focuses on maximizing blood flow to the heart and brain through a
series of coordinated interventions. It includes an initial series of 200
uninterrupted chest compressions, heart rhythm analysis with a single shock,
200 immediate post-shock chest compressions before the pulse check, early
administration of epinephrine to stimulate the heart, and delayed placement
of a flexible plastic tube into the trachea for the purpose of ventilating
the lungs."

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