storage locker for summer camp

[A Yap]

I would like to ask what types of storage lockers people use for summer camp
for scouts.

I have been told that some people like the Rubbermaid Actionpackers.

I just saw a Contico Storage Locker (wheeled) at linen n things for $20.
http://www.lnt.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1355511

This seems to do the job. Actionpackers seem to be a lot more expensive.
Is "water tight" a requirement?

Thanks.

[CarolK]

Post by A Yap
I would like to ask what types of storage lockers people use for summer camp
for scouts.
I have been told that some people like the Rubbermaid Actionpackers.
I just saw a Contico Storage Locker (wheeled) at linen n things for $20.
http://www.lnt.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1355511
This seems to do the job. Actionpackers seem to be a lot more expensive.
Is "water tight" a requirement?
Thanks.

Our family uses the Sterilite 3-drawer storage containers, then drill
holes in the edges to secure the drawers shut with cable ties for
transport. One of the adults brings a lockbock for valuables.

Carol
Greater Alabama Council
Troop 8

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[CarolK]

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Post by A Yap
I would like to ask what types of storage lockers people use for summer camp
for scouts.

A solid, comfortable pack and good judgement on what to take along is
pretty darn hard to beat for one person and their personal stuff.
Summer camp has the advantage of being a fairly short walk-in, so even
if weight makes it difficult, at least it's temporary (just be extra
sure to use the waist strap on that pack unless you want the pack to
tear your arms off...).
Big, clumsy rubber boxes seem to be better suited for long-term,
communal-item duty like a patrol box. If you're considering something
the size of a cooler or larger for one person, it's time to reconsider
what you're bringing along. Check out your Boy Scout Handbook for a
good idea of what you're going to need.

Our troop has found that the plastic drawer units or rubbermaid bins
pack better in the trailer for summer camp and we can bring the
trailer right into camp with us. We can arrange the units in the
trailer like a huge walk-in dresser. We also have a hang bar in the
trailer for their Uniform shirts, scarves, and slides for dinner and
assemblies. That keeps them cleaner and fewer missing pieces during
the week. Keeps the tents much neater for campsite inspection.

Carol

[Paul Johnson]

Post by CarolK
Our troop has found that the plastic drawer units or rubbermaid bins
pack better in the trailer for summer camp and we can bring the
trailer right into camp with us.

Ah, I see. Your troop is small but is equipped around plans to be a
much larger troop. 8:o) I think the closest equivalent you're going to
get to anything that the BSA would produce in this department would be a
US Army footlocker, which you can get at a military surplus. You don't
get much more indestructible and stackable than that. And they have
handles.

Post by CarolK
We can arrange the units in the trailer like a huge walk-in dresser.
We also have a hang bar in the trailer for their Uniform shirts,
scarves, and slides for dinner and assemblies. That keeps them
cleaner and fewer missing pieces during the week. Keeps the tents
much neater for campsite inspection.

Heck, if almost everything a soldier has with him in combat can fit in
an Army footlocker, that alone would clean up the tents if the Scouts
use them. And they're lockable, to help keep the honest people honest.
Let the boys find their own place to hang their uniform. I always just
folded mine up and dropped it at the foot of my bedroll, which prevents
someone from knocking the hanger off the tent frame. And now you get to
score points for being able to put all your vehicles in the parking lot
instead of a big box in the middle of camp and less wear and tear on the
trailer.

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Paul Johnson
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Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.

[Thom Batchelder]

For the hang up stuff in the tents, we took a round rod, put a painters
paint bucket on each end and hang thepole from the tent's ridge pole, if
you have one.

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Post by CarolK
Our troop has found that the plastic drawer units or rubbermaid bins
pack better in the trailer for summer camp and we can bring the
trailer right into camp with us.

Ah, I see. Your troop is small but is equipped around plans to be a
much larger troop. 8:o) I think the closest equivalent you're going to
get to anything that the BSA would produce in this department would be a
US Army footlocker, which you can get at a military surplus. You don't
get much more indestructible and stackable than that. And they have
handles.

Post by CarolK
We can arrange the units in the trailer like a huge walk-in dresser.
We also have a hang bar in the trailer for their Uniform shirts,
scarves, and slides for dinner and assemblies. That keeps them
cleaner and fewer missing pieces during the week. Keeps the tents
much neater for campsite inspection.

Heck, if almost everything a soldier has with him in combat can fit in
an Army footlocker, that alone would clean up the tents if the Scouts
use them. And they're lockable, to help keep the honest people honest.
Let the boys find their own place to hang their uniform. I always just
folded mine up and dropped it at the foot of my bedroll, which prevents
someone from knocking the hanger off the tent frame. And now you get to
score points for being able to put all your vehicles in the parking lot
instead of a big box in the middle of camp and less wear and tear on the
trailer.
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Paul Johnson
Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.
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[sohn]

Post by Thom Batchelder
For the hang up stuff in the tents, we took a round rod, put a painters
paint bucket on each end and hang thepole from the tent's ridge pole, if
you have one.

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Excellent idea if your Council camp staff allows it, check with camp staff
before you do it.
Ron

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Post by Thom Batchelder

I always just folded mine up and dropped it at the foot of my
bedroll, which prevents someone from knocking the hanger off the tent
frame.

For the hang up stuff in the tents, we took a round rod, put a painters
paint bucket on each end and hang thepole from the tent's ridge pole, if
you have one.

I just usually fold mine up, though if I thought to bring a hangar ahead
of time, or someone else has extras, I'll use a hangar on one of the
many nails already driven in for hooks in the tests.

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Paul Johnson
<***@ursine.ca>
Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.

[Brian Elfert]

Post by Paul Johnson
Big, clumsy rubber boxes seem to be better suited for long-term,
communal-item duty like a patrol box. If you're considering something
the size of a cooler or larger for one person, it's time to reconsider
what you're bringing along. Check out your Boy Scout Handbook for a
good idea of what you're going to need.

We have boys bringing huge bags like those used for hockey and such to
summer camp, and even for weekend camps. A lot of these the boys can't
even lift and they drag them across the ground.

We provide recommended equipment lists and still we have boys with too
darn much stuff. Our PLC needs to crack down on this. I'm thinking the
PLC should have everyone unpack their bags before leaving for summer camp
so that parents can take home unnecessary items.

We have considered some sort of foot locker for the boys to limit what
they bring and to reduce the space needed to transport gear.

Brian Elfert

[Paul Johnson]

Post by Brian Elfert
We have considered some sort of foot locker for the boys to limit what
they bring and to reduce the space needed to transport gear.

Foot lockers will increase the space required. Just make sure everybody
has a good frame pack. Then, from there, if you can't pick it up, you
can't bring that much stuff.

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Paul Johnson
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Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.

[Brian Elfert]

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Post by Brian Elfert
We have considered some sort of foot locker for the boys to limit what
they bring and to reduce the space needed to transport gear.

Foot lockers will increase the space required. Just make sure everybody
has a good frame pack. Then, from there, if you can't pick it up, you
can't bring that much stuff.

Foot lockers would probably take up less room in the trailer because they
can be stacked with little or space wasted. Most of our scouts bring
duffel bags of various shapes and sizes that result in wasted space in the
trailer.

The only way a scout is going to bring less is if the PLC does gear
inspections before summer camp. You tell a scout he has to be able to
lift his bag, then he just brings two bags instead. The other option
would be one bag per scout plus sleeping bag.

Brian Elfert

[Paul Johnson]

Post by Brian Elfert
The only way a scout is going to bring less is if the PLC does gear
inspections before summer camp. You tell a scout he has to be able to
lift his bag, then he just brings two bags instead. The other option
would be one bag per scout plus sleeping bag.

Like I said, insist on frame packs, insist that they be able to pick it
up. Most troops do that, and it Just Works.

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Paul Johnson
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Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.

[David Weintraub]

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Post by Brian Elfert
The only way a scout is going to bring less is if the PLC does gear
inspections before summer camp. You tell a scout he has to be able to
lift his bag, then he just brings two bags instead. The other option
would be one bag per scout plus sleeping bag.

Like I said, insist on frame packs, insist that they be able to pick it
up. Most troops do that, and it Just Works.
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Paul Johnson
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I don't know about the summer camps you goto. But there is at least one
in Arizona that has the boys carry their pack to the campsite, in the
hills.

[Paul Johnson]

Post by David Weintraub
I don't know about the summer camps you goto. But there is at least one
in Arizona that has the boys carry their pack to the campsite, in the
hills.

Baldwin does, as well, though if you're quick in-and-out on Saturday and
Sunday they'll let you load and unload real quick (though this is not
the preferred method). This is why I strongly suggested "Make them get
packs, make them be able to carry them."

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Paul Johnson
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Linux. You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.

[sohn]

Post by A Yap
I would like to ask what types of storage lockers people use for summer camp
for scouts.
I have been told that some people like the Rubbermaid Actionpackers.
I just saw a Contico Storage Locker (wheeled) at linen n things for $20.
http://www.lnt.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1355511
This seems to do the job. Actionpackers seem to be a lot more expensive.
Is "water tight" a requirement?

Only if it is keep outside a tent. Purchase a storage container which can
be kept under a bunk.
Ron

[Shawn]

Post by A Yap
I would like to ask what types of storage lockers people use for summer camp
for scouts.
I have been told that some people like the Rubbermaid Actionpackers.
I just saw a Contico Storage Locker (wheeled) at linen n things for $20.
http://www.lnt.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1355511
This seems to do the job. Actionpackers seem to be a lot more expensive.
Is "water tight" a requirement?
Thanks.

In my old troop, way back when, each boy was responsible for providing
his own box. What was suggested was a Butcher box. It is a cardboard
box with a lid that was somewhat sealed with wax. This is the box that
the butcher would get the meat in. Obviously you would not want to get
one that was covered in blood, but a few spots here and there would be
easy to clean up with a bleach solution.
These boxes were small enough to go under our cots.

[Any Mouse]

Post by A Yap
I would like to ask what types of storage lockers people use for summer camp
for scouts.

We don't have an official box but most in my troop use a good sized
rubbermaid or similar box that will slip under the cot. I think that
they are about 13 gallons.

The summer camp that we go to has parking spots designated for troop
trailers so we drag the trailer to the campsite and unload there.
Food and extra propane are left in the trailer.

As an adult, I wind up with one tub of clothing and one tub with
manuals, my briefcase, sewing kit, etc..

[James E. Bradley]

You might want to find out what your council's contengent to the
national jamboree uses. Our council has the boys all use the same
container so that the appearance is uniform. You don't want to have to
purchase two different containers if your scout later goes to the Jamboree.

Post by A Yap
I would like to ask what types of storage lockers people use for summer camp
for scouts.

[Any Mouse]

Post by James E. Bradley
You might want to find out what your council's contengent to the
national jamboree uses. Our council has the boys all use the same
container so that the appearance is uniform. You don't want to have to
purchase two different containers if your scout later goes to the Jamboree.

I don't think that could ever be a problem. Every time that I buy a
tub for summer camp, my wife steals it as soon as I get back and
clothes or blankets or beach towels get stored in it. Four years and
four new tubs.

[Paul Johnson]

Post by Any Mouse

Post by James E. Bradley
You might want to find out what your council's contengent to the
national jamboree uses. Our council has the boys all use the same
container so that the appearance is uniform. You don't want to have to
purchase two different containers if your scout later goes to the Jamboree.

I don't think that could ever be a problem. Every time that I buy a
tub for summer camp, my wife steals it as soon as I get back and
clothes or blankets or beach towels get stored in it. Four years and
four new tubs.

So what happens to the stuff in the old tubs? Permastored?

[Any Mouse]

Post by Paul Johnson

Post by Any Mouse
I don't think that could ever be a problem. Every time that I buy a
tub for summer camp, my wife steals it as soon as I get back and
clothes or blankets or beach towels get stored in it. Four years and
four new tubs.

So what happens to the stuff in the old tubs? Permastored?

It's a very complicated process. When I come home from summer camp, I
take the clothes out of the one tub and put them into the dirty
clothes hampers. The shaving kit goes into the drawer under the
bathroom sink. The towel goes into the towel hamper.

From the other tub, I extract the books and notebooks and put them
back onto the bookcase. Flashlights and the clothesline goes back on
the shelves from whence they came. The tarps and folding chair go
back into the shed.

Now I close my eyes and count to three before I open them again. When
I open my eyes, the empty tubs are gone, spirited away by the storage
fairey.

[Brian Elfert]

Post by James E. Bradley
You might want to find out what your council's contengent to the
national jamboree uses. Our council has the boys all use the same
container so that the appearance is uniform. You don't want to have to
purchase two different containers if your scout later goes to the Jamboree.

Storage containers generally cost less than $5 unless you get real fancy.

Anyone who could afford a Jamboree trip could probably afford a new
storage container. I'm sure some Jamboree troops provide the storage
container as part of the overall trip cost.

Brian Elfert