Nalgene water bottle vs Target Eddie Bauer

[Phil Schuman]

Since the other thread became long and wandering,
I had this other specific observation -

water bottles -
Was in Target today & they had 32oz Lexan water bottles
branded as Eddie Bauer for $5 each -
HOWEVER - I'm not quite sure about the top screw cap -
Not sure if it seals tight and won't leak - as the Nalgene brand -
Anyone else purchase these Eddie Bauer (Target) brand bottles
and compare them to the standard wide-mouth Nalgene bottles ??
duct tape -
we always carry some wrapped around a pencil
that is with our personal First Aid kit - great for BIG bandage :)
Phil -

[Rick Courtright]

Not sure if it seals tight and won't leak - as the Nalgene brand -
Anyone else purchase these Eddie Bauer (Target) brand bottles

Hi,

We're talking about Lexan bottles, not HDPE, right? I've never used the
Eddie Bauer bottles, but suspect since "Eddie Bauer" is basically just a
marketing organization today, these bottles may well come from the same
vendor as the Nalgene (I don't know if the Nalgene people make their own
Lexan bottles or outsource them.)

If I were curious about it (I'm not...) I'd buy one of them, take it
home and subject it to my own "torture test" based on how I use a
bottle, e.g. if you're a climber, drop it from a pretty good distance,
if you're more of a hiker, kick it around a bit to duplicate knocking if
off a rock, etc. That should tell the story. As you can tell, what's
satisfactory for one may not be for another.

$5 isn't a lot to spend for what may be a valuable lesson. But if the
money's an issue, save an extra $3 and buy peace of mind with genuine
Nalgene. Cutting through the crap on the other thread, it appears people
are pretty satisfied with it.

Rick

[WebKatz]

Not sure if it seals tight and won't leak - as the Nalgene brand -
Anyone else purchase these Eddie Bauer (Target) brand bottles

Was in Bauer today and saw them. Issues with Lexan aside, they didn't appear
to be anywhere near the quality of the Nalgenes.

[MLL]

Post by WebKatz

Not sure if it seals tight and won't leak - as the Nalgene brand -
Anyone else purchase these Eddie Bauer (Target) brand bottles

Was in Bauer today and saw them. Issues with Lexan aside, they didn't appear
to be anywhere near the quality of the Nalgenes.

People, it's a bottle to hold water, etc. It's not rocket science.

Does anyone remember the flexible bottles (used in medical storage) with the
big threaded tops on them? Those were sold for years to hikers and I still
use the ones I bought at least 20 years ago. I even have a few with narrow
tops! A long cable tie keeps the lid attached and provides a perfect carry
loop.

[Jack B]

Post by Rick Courtright

Post by WebKatz

Not sure if it seals tight and won't leak - as the Nalgene brand -
Anyone else purchase these Eddie Bauer (Target) brand bottles

Was in Bauer today and saw them. Issues with Lexan aside, they didn't

appear

Post by WebKatz
to be anywhere near the quality of the Nalgenes.

People, it's a bottle to hold water, etc. It's not rocket science.
Does anyone remember the flexible bottles (used in medical storage) with the
big threaded tops on them? Those were sold for years to hikers and I still
use the ones I bought at least 20 years ago. I even have a few with narrow
tops! A long cable tie keeps the lid attached and provides a perfect carry
loop.

Well, sure. Good bottles and my sons still use 'em. Newer ones, of
course.

But, let's find something more interesting to stress your hernia.

How about cigarette butts on the trail. God, I hate that.

[RICH]

Cigarette butts and TP on the trail, The TP has been a thread before.Also
beer cans and bottles, all kinds of garbage. Why can't people just not throw
it down, I 'm getting tired of paking out more than I take in!

Rich

[Rick Courtright]

Post by RICH
beer cans and bottles, all kinds of garbage. Why can't people just not throw
it down, I 'm getting tired of paking out more than I take in!

What about disposable diapers? I carry out a lot of other people's crap,
but a line's gotta be drawn somewhere! (At least between figurative and
literal "crap?")

Rick

[NEOScouter]

Post by Rick Courtright

Not sure if it seals tight and won't leak - as the Nalgene brand -
Anyone else purchase these Eddie Bauer (Target) brand bottles

Hi,
We're talking about Lexan bottles, not HDPE, right? I've never used
the Eddie Bauer bottles, but suspect since "Eddie Bauer" is basically
just a marketing organization today, these bottles may well come from
the same vendor as the Nalgene (I don't know if the Nalgene people
make their own Lexan bottles or outsource them.)
If I were curious about it (I'm not...) I'd buy one of them, take it
home and subject it to my own "torture test" based on how I use a
bottle, e.g. if you're a climber, drop it from a pretty good distance,
if you're more of a hiker, kick it around a bit to duplicate knocking
if off a rock, etc. That should tell the story. As you can tell,
what's satisfactory for one may not be for another.
$5 isn't a lot to spend for what may be a valuable lesson. But if the
money's an issue, save an extra $3 and buy peace of mind with genuine
Nalgene. Cutting through the crap on the other thread, it appears
people are pretty satisfied with it.
Rick

I have a lexan EB bottle that was a gift. It came from the EB store (~
$10), don't know if it's the same bottle as Target. The bottle doesn't
leak and is holding up great. I've actually come to prefer it over my
Nalgene HDPE bottle (more rigid).

[RICH]

I looked at the Eddie Bauer Bottles, I too agree that the covers don't look
very ruuged and they look like they may leak

Rich

[NEOScouter]

Post by RICH
I looked at the Eddie Bauer Bottles, I too agree that the covers don't
look very ruuged and they look like they may leak
Rich

Actually my Lexan Eddie Bauer is just as rugged. I haven't had a leak
problem. I also own a HDPE Nalgene and my son has a Lexan Nalgene and the
EB is comparable

[g***@earthlink.net]

Eddie Bauer's bottles are manufactured for them by GSI. GSI's seem to hold
up just as good as Nalgene's. The newest version of GSI's is also more
graspable. On the downside, I don't think the screw on cap operates as
easily as Nalgene's.
The other big advantage to the lexan bottles besides durability is the fact
that they do not carry-over taste and smell from the last contents of the
bottle.
And... yes, Nalgene will replace a broken bottle free, as will any good
outfitter (i.e., EMS, REI, LLBean, etc.).

Post by RICH
I looked at the Eddie Bauer Bottles, I too agree that the covers don't look
very ruuged and they look like they may leak
Rich

[Tom Knudson]

I have been hiking in hot climates lately. These bottles are very packable
and very rigid. They can be upside down or sideways and they don't leak! I
compartmentalize water. I don't like to keep all of my water in one place.
I have been packing from 6 to 8 liters from water source to water source. I
haven't spilled anything yet.

I use the wide mouth versions. They work well with my MSR water filter.
When I find something that works I stick with it. It doesn't matter how
cheap the competition is. Besides I like the look and I like the bright
colours.

They all have this cool lid strip which works well as a finger hold. I
haven't broken that either.

I imagine that any Lexan bottle would have the same properties as long as it
had the right lid material. I believe that Starbucks sells a version for a
lot more than $8.00. Check that out next time you get a latte.

Enjoy,

TK

Post by g***@earthlink.net
Eddie Bauer's bottles are manufactured for them by GSI. GSI's seem to hold
up just as good as Nalgene's. The newest version of GSI's is also more
graspable. On the downside, I don't think the screw on cap operates as
easily as Nalgene's.
The other big advantage to the lexan bottles besides durability is the fact
that they do not carry-over taste and smell from the last contents of the
bottle.
And... yes, Nalgene will replace a broken bottle free, as will any good
outfitter (i.e., EMS, REI, LLBean, etc.).

Post by RICH
I looked at the Eddie Bauer Bottles, I too agree that the covers don't

look

Post by RICH
very ruuged and they look like they may leak
Rich

[John O]

I bought one of the Target bottles yesterday. The boiling water test (8 oz)
sprayed water.

OK, but...when is that ever going to happen in the field? I don't think this
is a problem.

The lid: I like the way the lid is attached to the bottle better than
Nalgene. The capture-ring turns *with* the lid, as opposed to Nalgene where
the capture ring is tight to the bottle. If you use both, it becomes obvious
that the EB bottle is a slightly better ergonomic design. Key word:
slightly. :-)

But the EB lid is harder plastic, and it doesn't seal as well. We'll see if
that has any practical effects. I suspect that when cold, this lid could
shatter if dropped onto rock or concrete or whatever.

my $0.02

John O

[Rixtory]

Post by John O
I bought one of the Target bottles yesterday. The boiling water test (8 oz)
sprayed water.
OK, but...when is that ever going to happen in the field? I don't think this
is a problem.

Snipped

It is a problem if you are winter camping. Most winter campers and climbers
carry nalgene Lexan bottles and fill one with boiling water and place it in
the foot of their sleeping bag (I usually do mine about an hour before I
crawl in for the night.

I sure as hell don't want something that leaks hot water near me or my
equipment.
Trust Nalgene!

[John O]

Post by Rixtory
It is a problem if you are winter camping.

The results will be different depending on whether you use 8 oz or 33 oz of
boiling water.

John O

[adam]

Post by John O
I bought one of the Target bottles yesterday. The boiling water test (8 oz)
sprayed water.
OK, but...when is that ever going to happen in the field? I don't think this
is a problem.
The lid: I like the way the lid is attached to the bottle better than
Nalgene. The capture-ring turns *with* the lid, as opposed to Nalgene where
the capture ring is tight to the bottle. If you use both, it becomes obvious
slightly. :-)
But the EB lid is harder plastic, and it doesn't seal as well. We'll see if
that has any practical effects. I suspect that when cold, this lid could
shatter if dropped onto rock or concrete or whatever.
my $0.02
John O

i bought a nalgene in '93 or '94 for an outward bound stint... best bottle
in the world. my brother later ruined it and i was completely disappointed
when i found i couldn't find the old school kind: it was opaque and almost
maliable. now all the nalgenes i see look like a tinted window and are
almost like glass - hate them!

just my 2 cents...

[Gary S.]

Post by adam
i bought a nalgene in '93 or '94 for an outward bound stint... best bottle
in the world. my brother later ruined it and i was completely disappointed
when i found i couldn't find the old school kind: it was opaque and almost
maliable. now all the nalgenes i see look like a tinted window and are
almost like glass - hate them!

That is the HDPE (high density polyethylene) one common at that time.
The milky white plastic with a waxy feel. They are still available,
but as you say, the newer PC (Lexan/polycarbonate) ones in various
clear tints have taken over much of the market.

The ones you prefer are still available through REI:

Nalgene Loop-Top Round Bottle - 16 oz.
Item 402050 Price: $4.15

Nalgene Loop-Top Round Bottle - 32 oz.
Item 402049 Price: $5.75

I'm sure elsewhere as well.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
------------------------------------------------
at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

[Tom Knudson]

I checked the price of the Starbucks version: You can get a sophisticated
water bottle for about $13.00. I suspect that the thing has decent
properties but I prefer wide mouth lids.
TK

Post by Tom Knudson
I have been hiking in hot climates lately. These bottles are very packable
and very rigid. They can be upside down or sideways and they don't leak!

I

Post by Tom Knudson
compartmentalize water. I don't like to keep all of my water in one place.
I have been packing from 6 to 8 liters from water source to water source.

I

Post by Tom Knudson
haven't spilled anything yet.
I use the wide mouth versions. They work well with my MSR water filter.
When I find something that works I stick with it. It doesn't matter how
cheap the competition is. Besides I like the look and I like the bright
colours.
They all have this cool lid strip which works well as a finger hold. I
haven't broken that either.
I imagine that any Lexan bottle would have the same properties as long as it
had the right lid material. I believe that Starbucks sells a version for a
lot more than $8.00. Check that out next time you get a latte.
Enjoy,
TK

Post by g***@earthlink.net
Eddie Bauer's bottles are manufactured for them by GSI. GSI's seem to

hold

Post by g***@earthlink.net
up just as good as Nalgene's. The newest version of GSI's is also more
graspable. On the downside, I don't think the screw on cap operates as
easily as Nalgene's.
The other big advantage to the lexan bottles besides durability is the

fact

Post by g***@earthlink.net
that they do not carry-over taste and smell from the last contents of the
bottle.
And... yes, Nalgene will replace a broken bottle free, as will any good
outfitter (i.e., EMS, REI, LLBean, etc.).

Post by RICH
I looked at the Eddie Bauer Bottles, I too agree that the covers don't

look

Post by RICH
very ruuged and they look like they may leak
Rich